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Are Drills Overrated?

Are Drills Overrated?

All my life I have been into swimming and I have myself done thousands og swimming drills and I have also tought swimmers an equal amount of drills. I am a firm believer in the right technique is the most important thing to teach swimmers; however I am starting to doubt that, drills is so good as advertised and therefore I have to ask the question: Are Drills Overrated?
But resently ive noticed in my team (agegroup 10-16) that drills usually don't get the impact on the full stroke as I want and don't really teach swimmers bodies I want them to teach. I can use lots of time teaching swimmers how to do drills perfectly but I see a little transfer from the drill to the full stroke.
It also seems to me that most drills always have wrong lesson within. Therefore I would have to teach a 2nd drill to counteract the faults of the first drill. It seems like a waste of time and the question is, that maybe many of these drills probably aren't as good as we think they are?
So what i'm saying is that a swimmers body isn't just focusing on the one thing we want to isolate during a drill, but more likely they are learning the full lesson of the drill, where there are many faults. One that comes for almost all drills is the fact that they always ruin the good swimming rhytm and thereby makes everything completely different for the swimmer.
So my point being that maybe we could teach swimming more efficiently by practicing the full stroke with different focus and learn swimmers how to focus on specific details of their swimming? I mean that working on a high elbow can be done without a catch-up drill or any other variation. Instead we could more often give them the whole picture and put pieces on it from there instead of dividing it into weird drills that don' t transfer too well.
I'm not saying that drills shouldn't be part of our practices, since we always have different swimmers that learn differently. All im saying is, that maybe we should take some of the drills out of the workouts and replace it with some real swimming and learn swimmers and their bodies the full lesson, while they are learning the specific thing that we want to teach?

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Andreja Andric • drills are not overrated...
the question is, which one to use, why that specific drill (what do you want out of that drill), when do you use them and what combination of drills and other stuff (a lots of time it is full stroke swimming) do you use.
i agree that bunch of them does not make sense.
a lot of drills are contaminated with bad mechanics and things you can not transfer to full stroke swimming in the way you imagined it would bee.
but then again...
it's your fault:)
nobody forced you to incorporate them into your training sessions:)
that is the thing i was told a 1 000 000 times.
so, my point is...
use drills when you see a swimmer with a specific problem causing a chain reaction of problems. try with talking, then with the drill, then progress to a more stroke like drill or full stroke.
if he or she understands and gets the picture... no drills
if he or she understands what is needed but can not fell what is needed... try with carefully chosen drill or drills (as simple as possible)
if the drills turn the light bulb in the head... cool, continue practicing and combining the drill and the full stroke while incorporating the elements of the drill
if not... ask for more focus and understanding and return to the initial drill (for weeks literally).
on the other hand, swimmer must want to totally engage in the problem solving process. some people get the point immediately, some after a long time. the first are the lucky ones, the second need to practice until it is perfect. (my mentor used to say: he who knows, he knows. he who does not know, he goes to school, sometimes up to 25 years. then, he probably will know too.)
that is the reason why swimming can be boring sometimes:)
but the same is with musicians, actors, craftsmen, other sports.
ask a basketball player how he managed to shoot free throws in 95% accuracy...
or ask ryan lochte how he got to the point where he can swim his underwater portion of the backstroke race that fast.
catch my drift?:)

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Bryan C. Christiansen • learning kinesthetically is far more effective than verbal instruction - you can tell a swimmer over and over to get their elbow high but it's tough for them to get it until they are actually doing a drill physical that emphasizes that body motion.

It's true that many drills have faults and disadvantages that need to be countered with other drills, but I don't think that's a waste of time - it's making the swimmers more aware of the results of their actions in the water.

I also agree that some drills are just ineffective and awkward. I dislike one-arm fly with heads raised because that really throws off swimmers' rhythm, especially younger kids - but I'm also aware that side breathing doesn't really help two-arm fly. I take it as a rhythm and timing drill and then try to apply that timing to a full stroke. I think that's the key - the application of the good technique (or parts of a technique) into an actual set or normal swimming.

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Barb Augustin • Another way to approach the problem is swimming golf - they have to time themselves and count their strokes. They add the number of strokes to the number of seconds to get a golf score. Next step is to reduce the golf score - they can focus on going faster (reducing time) or by taking less strokes. The point is to make the swimmer think about what they are doing. Give them problems to solve - eg swim the same golf score but do it by adding 2 strokes and reducing 2 seconds (or whatever). Eventually the swimmer will come to you with a question. Then you can talk to them about what you think their issue is and suggest they work on a high elbow. Let them try to work on it for awhile and then when they ask why it isn't working - suggest some high elbow drills. The idea is to get the swimmer to take some ownership of the process (as suggested by Andreja).
I understand all that is hard to do in a squad session, so I make the squad to the golf drills. I give the other drills to the swimmer as homework (they can do it in their own time or in their warm up/down). I also do a lot of drills early in the season when I am trying to build the stroke up again from scratch. Later in the season the drills are all golf-type drills.

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Michele Greb • My staff are taught to build swimmer strokes on drills from day one. By breaking down the stroke into its phases and then using drills that focus on one area at a time, then two areas etc to full stroke, and based upon standard accepted growth and development stages through the primary growth and learning years, we gradually develop a whole stroke that is fit to be coached by the time a swimmer reaches age 14 or so.

It's a long process, but then again, no one really cares who the fastest 12 year old in the country is other than their parents and a probably really inexperienced coach (unless that 12 year old is 2 metres tall and making senior national cuts, then it is totally different!).

Cu 19 zile în urmă 

Keith Dennison • Practicing good drills and always learning from the best is a key features in swimming success. Practicing drills that do not make any sense, nor make you a better swimmer are futile at best. There are some amazing coaches out there and some amazing master's swimmers to learn from. I am 42 and in my prime was in the top 20 in the world in the 100M Fly. After watching Phelps develop his underwater, I was able to prefect some drills that made my under water kick outs 10X better than they were in College. Albeit in the rubber suites, I was able to go 50.7, 100 fly in 2009 at USMS Spring Nats, 50% of it was under water....all from watching Phelps and practice those drills.

ON the other hand, the KRLS drill is a complete waste to time, other than loosening up your shoulders.... That is my two cents.

Cu 19 zile în urmă 

Henry "Hank" Buntin • We learn by drilling. Everything we repeat is a drill. We create habitual and reflexive behaviors by drilling or repeated actions. So it is with learning math or swimming. Effective drills are repeated stimuli of significant duration and intensity for creating patterns of behavior of desired responses. Concentrate on those things which make you go fast not on going fast. Learn how to do it right before you do it fast. Teach swimmers the whys of doing things and they will be more inclined to accomplish their goals because they will understand what the goal is and why doing a thing in a specific way will enhance their skills. For example: Keeping the elbow higher than the fingertips in the prone strokes,
is necessary for leverage and thus mechanical advantage and effective power. This is only one example of a basic principle that many coaches may approach with different drills but leverage is the key lesson to be taught. Drills include every aspect of training from repeating laps to repeated nourishment, resting and life style. Our lives are one big drill. The key is to select those that most beneficial for the goals you want to achieve.

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Paul Robbins • Used for specific development yes. Coaches, however, sometime ignore the unintended consequences. For example single arm butterfly can result in alternating kicks.

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Henry "Hank" Buntin • Good comment . "Effective drilling" is a key thought . There is a big difference between one arm fly and alternating arm fly of 1right-1 left-3 full strokes. If one arm fly puts swimmer on a "listed" side- the recovery will be unnatural and more a crawl recovery than a fly recovery using rhythm and undulation of body and core . A bad drill (or repeats of any kind promoting poor techniques) promotes bad behavior --NOT what we want

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Kevin Joubert • I'll preface this by saying I work with adults. And I get where you are going with the idea of what are drills worth and can they be overused.

As another poster mentioned I think if we have a certain skill and a certain aspect we want a certain swimmer to work on then it is much more likely the drill will be successful. However when we talk about sending an entire squad out with some side kick drill, are we really making a difference for most of those folks?

I think as we consider how useful drills are we should separate the idea of chronic changes and acute changes. When I have a brand new adult onset swimmer, I can have them do a kicking drill where they take a stroke when they breathe and make sure their belly button points to the side of the pool. That drill in that circumstance can acutely change that new swimmers way of breathing, letting them roll instead of simply turning their head.

On the other hand, a year's worth of working some days on stick drill with a weighted stick and alternating days working on windmill style swimming, over the course of a year that can help a swimmer develop an adaptable stroke where she can adjust based on the length and conditions of the race (perhaps rough open water). I wouldn't expect those drills to make a change on any given day, but little by little.

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Megan Kahlich, LPN • Before I use any drill for my age group team, I sit down and look at the drill as a whole. Are they physically able (strong enough) to do the drill and do it properly? If not what are the consequences. Do they understand what we are focusing on an why its important to their race? And what are the negatives that come from focusing on that area. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. What will it be and how will it effect my swimmers.

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Mircea Olaru • Mircea Olaru • ...<< for any sports discipline: not exsit 'bad exercises' ... but there may be 'stupid coaches' ​​... adaptation from Hipocrates - 'does not exsit disease ... there are sick people' >>

Cu 13 zile în urmă

Urmăriți: Heather Curry

Heather Curry • I think there is sometimes another reason for using drills. Younger swimmers can have smaller concentration spans. Some drills can help focus, be fun and add variety to a session, making the overall experience more enjoyable. Without the younger less advanced swimmers enjoying their training sessions, we wont have bigger stronger swimmers working on championship training.

Cu 13 zile în urmă 

Steve Nickalls • Drills are good in many cases, however they need to be watched carefully a drill done 99% correct is 100% wrong!! Heather is quite correct variety for the younger ones is very important, keeps them interested and focused. Drills used for correction in older swimmers does work if explained to them the whys and what fors, I often use them as corrections/suggestions '' try this I think it will help '' somewhere between my ideas and their swimming we find a compromise that works for us both

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Urmăriți: Evan Shanley

Evan Shanley • I don't think they're necessarily overrated, but rather not focused enough on specific problems related to that swimmer. I think drills are more effective in small groups where dime ills can be done to meet the swimmers specific problems. I think drills become ineffective when you simply say "10x50 @ :50, your choice of drill". It's too many, it's unfocused, and you'll get the same drills repetitively. I too agree that drills can be "counterproductive" in that they can have done negatives involved, but I try to limit the repetitions with these drills.

Cu 12 zile în urmă

Irene Bouette • I agree with Evan. During the swim there are many components to remember and if a challenge arises when a person is swiming it is invaluable to get the swimmer to step back and use the drill related to make the swim more proficient.
It is also recognised that other forms of exercise such as dancing that can help a swimmer be more co-ordinated (remember the Olympic swimer Sidney has taken up ballet also 'what does swiming, dancing and singing have in common - www.swim-easy.co.uk)

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Oliver Waddington • A drill should be used to isolate a certain techniqual issue within a swimmers stroke. thus the drill needs to be specific and focused to overcome that issue. if it does not correct the issue or focus the swimmers attention that particular phase of stroke - DONT USE IT.

if you are having to use a multiple of different drills to conteract issues of another drill, ask yourself was the initial drill necessary for that swimmer or effective to your desired outcome

Breastroke Pullout

Breastroke Pullout

I've been wondering about this for a few months now. The question is why elite breastrokers do not stay underwater longer off of their turns; I've noticed that they only go about 8-9 meters. I personally can go about that far off every wall (and am far from elite, nor do I lose ground in my races). Is it an efficiency issue? Or is it something no one has really experimented with?

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Urmăriți: Greg Rasmussen MBA

Greg Rasmussen MBA • Speed, as long as you can maintain a faster speed underwater than on top stay there, the thing is with the rules they way they stand you max speed by push, hand separation, dolphin kick, pull down, pop up. All of these need to be connected AT SPEED, I find about 10 meters optimal for me (except off the dive). I can go 15-17 but not with the same speed.

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Urmăriți: Andrew Sellers

Andrew Sellers • Coming from an age group perspective, but one of the things my staff and I stress is the happy medium. What is our maximum distance with the maximum speed. Just because you can get to the 15m mark off the wall doesn't mean it is efficient.

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John Pat Bourassa • Greg and Andrew are absolutely right! Take time. Take time and with a watch and placing a board on the edge of the pool; determine a ideal surfacing point for your (each) swimmer.

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Urmăriți: Andrew Sellers

Andrew Sellers • John we have colored cones that we place under water. Each swimmer has a different color. The idea is to break out with the eyes above the cone and finish that initial stroke with the feet past the cone.

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Urmăriți: Adam Schapiro

Adam Schapiro • Thanks for the input so far. I agree that efficiency (speed and distance) is more important than distance alone. However, I'm just surprised that no one seems willing/able to go any farther while free/back/fly swimmers can go 15 meters (or,in the past, further) at will.

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Urmăriți: Andrew Sellers

Andrew Sellers • Adam, you sound like you may not have been a heavy breast stroker in your own experience as a swimmer.

Speaking from my own experience as primarily a breast stroke swimmer, I can assure you it is not an at will thing. Breast stroke has some many mechanical moving parts that something can and will go wrong. In breast stroke timing and strength are everything. Top end breast strokers do more dryland or as much as your top end sprinters.

From my personal experience I could hit the 15m off every wall in the 100 and 200, but it was inefficient for me. I would often in the 200 have a long pullout on the start and the middle 100 with shorter pull outs everywhere else. I did this because I felt I could gain more acceleration/speed into my middle 100 and finishing 25 by doing this. I was still well past the flags but I was in between the 10yd mark and 1/2 half at all times. On a good day I was at 1/2 way on every turn after the start but that is not the way I thought about it.

Teaching/doing a 15m pullout is really only critical off a start for most BR's. finding a happy medium is what is critical for off the turns. I teach my swimmers to try and extend their happy medium a little further on the 200 BR and 400 IM.

I am finding the top end 13 & over boys do better with a shorter more efficient pull out while the girls do better with longer under water. That could also just be the athletes I have currently and worked with in the past.

I have been using weekly to bi-weekly power tower sets to work on power through the breakout and initial speed. This has helped my athletes tremendously and I would highly recommend purchasing one if your club has the money.

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Urmăriți: Matthew Byrne

Matthew Byrne • Hi All, In australia Brenton Rickard will go up to 20 meters of a dive, where Christian Springer is a little shorter. I have a 1:00 Breast stroker and for me it is also in addition to the above the balance of Hypoxic load by staying underwater to long especially 200. The key is that the last turn is the best and the athlete has to be in the right place (mentally and physically) for that last turn, to much effort underwater until then can sometimes tip them over the edge.

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Urmăriți: Andrew Sellers

Andrew Sellers • Matt I absolutely agree. I do a lot of Hypoxic work in general. But I completely agree that last pull out is the most important one. What is the right distance for maximum acceleration into the finish.

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Urmăriți: Matthew Byrne

Matthew Byrne • No loss of speed. My experience is that swimmers glide to long before they start the pull out. I do 5, 7 and 10 meter dive/push glides on time to the head position. This is the raw speed from the dive/turn. I then time the 10 meter(dive)or 5/7 meter(turn) position during the breast stroke layout. The time must be a little faster, if it is slower the layout has to start earlier if it is a lot faster time the layout can start later. This has helped me to quantify the ideal distance for the layout.

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Urmăriți: Andrew Sellers

Andrew Sellers • Just a verbiage issue but what are you calling the "layout"? We do a lot of dive and glide in our diving well which is approximately 10 meters by 10 meters. We also do deep turn and pullout work. That coupled with power tower work is what has helped my swimmers.

We do 5 second break out work from a start. How far can you go from a dive to your first 3 strokes in BR. All other strokes we look at 3 seconds.

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Urmăriți: Anita K.

Anita K. • I think it was Bill Sweetenham once told me the ideal time underwater in the pullout is 5 seconds from the dive to the head popping. We have always worked on this first and then trying to maximise distance. We are currently refining the body posture/spine alignment in the final glide prior to breakout as many swimmers start lifting the head out of alignment at this point. It results in a shallower angle rising, and slightly longer underwater. Swimmers sometimes have to adjust how deep they dive as a result, but they don't lose as much speed as they breakout.

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Urmăriți: Brenda Oldfield

Brenda Oldfield • You have to know the swimmers abilities. I have always thought feel for the water. Maintain speed and distance by how the water feels. New swimmers don't have that but swimmers who have been in the water can make a judgement of what the water feels like as they slow down. Each swimmer is different coach to the swimmers abilities and not to the general population. Good technique builds speed and confidence.

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Mircea Olaru • unfortuanetly I repeat: correctly though I've always had a little confidence in rowing arms Breastroke; always see less important than rowing legs - seemed unavoidable inequality between the two movements efficiency [arms, legs] now feel that this equality can be achieved and I think with success, my question is [I do not know exactly how to swim now worldwide ...] how many breastrokers have noticed and apply new movement?

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Urmăriți: Steve Nickalls

Steve Nickalls • Time the pull out and distances, easy way to sort that one out. Don't forget oxygen debt to, if you go to far holding your breath you may come up slightly more 'tired' than alittle earlier, something else that need working on and working out. Everybody is individual

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Urmăriți: Andrew Sellers

Andrew Sellers • Think about the surface area you present in the breas stroke pullout. You require more muscle, therefore more oxygen. Free/back and fly have the advantage of the streamline and movements that have high outputs with low inputs.

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Mircea Olaru • In my opinion:
All these attempts presented will disappear soon enough, when FINA / TSC will allow regular as Breastroke and Dolfin turn to be made, like the Freestyle and Backstroke by rolling, without further touching the wall palms etc.
FINA has a duty to allow same regulation changes refer to all 4 strokes [by Google translate]

have a nice day.....

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Urmăriți: Andrew Sellers

Andrew Sellers • FINA threw out that measure at their last general meeting. Said the argument for the rule change was invalid. That rule change drastically changes how breast stroke would have been swam.

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Mircea Olaru • Mircea Olaru • I know what was discussed at Barcelona in TSC ... but you wonder if it would not be fair play if at all styles could turn without touching the wall ..., this is speculation not a fact!

Do not worry too much - Breastroke has always been subject to attempts to change ... but eventually all remained Breastroke [ for ex.: 1927, German Rademacher began to pull his arms out of the water, releasing no idea of ​​the future style nr. 4 = Butterfly ... and in 1935 Alfred Sieg swam the first time under the supervision of coach David Armbruster = Dolfin // 1.00,2/100 yd ...] have a happy day ....